What Neil Said, part 4

3rd appearance, Sunday 20th, panel discussion +brief signing
13.00 PM, Finnish time

I was there an hour early again, getting my usual front row seat, admiring the anime they were showing before that. The panel was supposed to be on Mythology squared 2, about how mythology is used and reinvented in fantasy nowadays. Due to this appearance being in a panel, I decided not to take notes all the time, though I semiregretted it later.
The panel consisted of chairman Jukka Halme, radio-dj Hannu Blommila, artist Petri Hiltunen, student Tarja Rainio and Neil Gaiman, of course. I'm not sure how well they stayed within the given limits, but it was fairly entertaining and somewhat humorous, too. First in line was dealing out the requested drinks, Neil saying that he was fine as long as he got his Sunday morning coffee, which one of his guides had brought in when he arrived.

What I do remember was that when at one stage Neil had talked for rather a long time on something, the chairman threw in the comment "Welcome to the Neil Gaiman show", which promptly cut the opinion slightly shorter maybe. I don't know if the chairman had actually heard Neil's comment on the Neil Gaiman-show yesterday or not, but it hit the mark I believe.

The topics ranged from Tolkien to Howard, for example,Hiltunen saying that without Tolkien we would now look at Howard's work as the defining early fantasy influence, to which Neil said he disagreed, that in his opinion Howard would be remembered as a minor cult writer without Tolkien's work.
The "hashashini" also came up, Blommila bringing the topic up I believe. You can find more about them via Silent Arrows Library . For now let it just be said they're the people who are responsible for us calling assassins just that. I had a previous interest in the matter because of the character of Nasir in Robin of Sherwood in the 1980's, so it was fairly intriguing to hear Neil talk about an idea about what if the pope had used or was using the hashashiyun/assassinites secretly. I can't remember what exactly was said, but there was an interruption from the audience, from the head of Finland's Star Wars society, saying that there actually is a Finnish short story quite like that. I'm not sure if I've ran across it, but if I have, it seemingly wasn't that memorable then.

Gaiman's opinion was that myths are what you have after you stop worshipping, after the traditions of religions stop. He was saying "Nobody sprinkles the sacred crocodile dust in the Nile delta at 6 am anymore..." when Hiltunen gestured that he has something to say to that, only for Neil to go "You do??" and make the audience laugh, of course. He also thought that from religion you first go to mythology, and when those start dying out, they become fairytales for us.

He also said that he's mildly pissed off with druids, despite the usual "some of my best friends are ..." line. The reason was that they claim to be part of a 5000 year tradition, when in reality it started some 150(?) years ago maybe, someone coming up with this and that and saying that this is how they worshipped back then. We don't know what they did in reality.
In connection to this he said that what we do know about someone worshipping Odin, for example, is that they hanged one person every day for 9 days (possibly 9 people for 9 days in a row?) and had them hanging at the side of the path to form a symbolic gateway through which people walked to the main worshipping site, or something like that. So it's fine by him if someone wants to worship in the old ways, only there's that small matter of the rituals actually being what they were. I didn't take notes on this, so don't quote me on it.

There was a point being made about christianity being used in literature like it was a myth though it's still practised, which probably lead Neil to his comment on The Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus. He first asked if anyone had heard of it, a few hands rising from the audience, mine being one of them, though I don't think he noticed, looking the other way. He described the way the child Jesus is performing miracles to the left and right of him, and killing anyone he was displeased with, all that, and then quoted Mary's words to Joseph, about how they won't be able to let him out anymore if he keeps on killing everyone like that, and saying what a wonderful line that is.
He also told this story from it about how some kid had died falling off the roof of a building, everyone suspecting Jesus had done it. Jesus said he hadn't, and that he could prove it, waking up the dead kid. So the dead kid wakes up, says Jesus didn't do it, and then falls back dead again.

The panel finished and Neil was escorted out, but I stayed in my seat, waiting for the Author Reading scheduled in half an hour. Ken MacLeod was first in turn, reading a passage from his book Cassini Division. Again, I made no notes, so not having read the book the thing that most stuck in my mind was the brightly coloured suits they wore to travel on the surface of one of the moon's of Saturn (?), and that Saturn had rings then. He has a most charming Scottish accent, though I'm sure most Finns found it rather difficult to understand, would describe it as slightly "clipped" perhaps. Neil was a bit late when MacLeod finished, so there was a chance for a surprise questions and answers session, too. Unfortunately I just don't remember a single thing from it. I'm hopeless if I don't take notes.

Neil walked in again and said he would do a reading from his upcoming book American Gods. He quipped that it was going to be published under the category of "Bestseller", though I'm still not sure whether he was serious about that or not. You can never tell with him. He described the book as an odd mixture of short story collection and murder mystery and everything in between, and said it's taking him so long cause practically every chapter he adds in one short story in between, if I got that right.

This is where I start smiling widely as I'm typing this, it's something that happens to me every time I think about his reading. I start smiling and I get tears in my eyes if I think about it too closely. The chapter he read for us was called "Coming to America 1721", and it told us the story of the life of Essie Tregowan. If you ever get a chance to go to some reading of his, I recommend you do, it's a wonderful experience. I still hear his voice in my mind when I think about the story, can hear lines from here and there, the tone of voice he used. If your father read you bedtime stories like that you'd never want to grow too old to be read one.

The story itself is hard to describe unless I want to spoil it in advance, which I don't, especially as I hardly have his talent of making things sound the way he makes them sound, wording and phrasing. Get the book when it comes out, it's there somewhere. All I can say is it involves pixies (which I always thought were pronounced piksies, not piskies) and appletree men, and tells of transportation, and pleading the belly and many other things. It starts out like any story does, and goes on to describe Essie's life with love and care, so that at some stage you realize you care about the character, the way you care about most of Neil Gaiman's characters.
When he got near the end of the story, I was trying not to cry and I was still smiling, too, at the same time. You felt like you knew Essie and that she mattered, that essentially all the people in the world matter. It's what his writing does to me, and that's why I end up trying not to cry, though I've been described the most unfeeling person sometimes. That's one of his greatest gifts in my eyes, the characters he writes. I admit that his reading the text out loud may have something to do with my reaction, too, but I still say the story is good.

I particularly liked the way she reacted when Mr. John Richardson came to see her one night, very characteristic of her. Or should I say any woman who's gone through what she has and has half a brain? Get the book to see what I mean. I probably liked her because her life reminded me of what my life might have been like back then, and because she's a survivor. And the chestnut hair doesn't hurt either, I guess.
Another thing that stuck in my mind well was that exchange of lines between Essie and a certain someone, the way she said "If you're who I think you are, I've no quarrel with you." The way he replied "Aye, and I no quarrel with you, Essie Tregowan", and "You've done me many a good turn", as well as "Good and bad. Our kind blow both ways." But I better move on or I'll be smudging the keyboard with mascara coloured teardrops.

He finished and all the people in the auditorium woke from the enchantment. I tried to make my way out quickly, not certain what was up next, but not wanting to miss any of it if there was something happening still. Neil was by the info and sales table, talking about a decorated doll someone had given to him, something about butterflies I think. I had the chance to give him my little Thoughts and Thanks-note then, right after which everyone moved to the signing table, where there was more room. There had been no planned signing for Sunday, but everyone got in queue spontaneously just in case. This time I was about 9th or so. Neil was talking to a handicapped guy in a wheelchair at this stage.
The impromptu signing was fine by me, since I still had one more Finnish version of Neverwhere to sign with me, this time for the guy who originally introduced me to the Sandman and Gaiman's work. I felt I owed that much to him, if not more. At the same time Ken MacLeod's signign was about to start, so there were 2 lines next to each other. When there was only one person in front of me and no one in front of MacLeod I asked him if I could get his autograph while waiting, only for the person in front of me to move away at the same time, so I was trying to juggle both celeb-conversations at the same time, get the dedication names right, etc. Another new name for Neil and Tiina with MacLeod.
This signing was very short, so I was lucky to have squeezed in. I went out to the terrace, the door of which was by the queue, and was coming back in when Neil was leaving. I smiled hello's to the guides and exchanged a glance, raising eyebrows for recognition or something, with Neil as he passed. It's my most predominant memory of him, the way his eyes looked as he fixed them on me, passing. I can't interpret the look on the face, but I do remember the eyes.

So anywaysies... He left, hovering in the hall a bit further still I think, last words with some people, as I saw hovering on the other side of the hall, getting my last impressions.

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